Why No One Can Look Away From Elizabeth Holmes

This week, there’s a new blockbuster Elizabeth Holmes documentary out, and we’ve assembled an expert panel to discuss the movie and what Holmes means to the tech world of today. Max Read is joined by John Carreyrou, who, through his investigative reporting for The Wall Street Journal and his book “Bad Blood,” revealed the fraud at the heart of Theranos; Erin Griffith, a tech reporter who extensively covered Holmes’s trail; and Caitlin Roper, the New York Times executive producer who wrote the first-ever magazine piece about Holmes for Wired back in 2013. We end with a rundown of what else is happening in tech news this week. Panelists: Erin Griffith, a tech reporter for The New York Times. John Carreyrou, author of “Bad Blood: Secrets and Lies in a Silicon Valley Startup” and an investigative reporter for The New York Times’s business section. Caitlin Roper runs film, TV and books at The New York Times. Additional Reading: ‘You Can See Everything’ Review: The Slippery Mind of Elizabeth Holmes Elizabeth Holmes’s Partner Has a New Blood-Testing Start-Up Elizabeth Holmes to Transfer to Halfway House in August 2027 F.B.I. Arrests OpenAI Employee Accused of Planting Bug in Office We want to hear from you. Email us at hardfork@nytimes.com. Find “Hard Fork” on YouTube and TikTok. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.